Cam’ron Says Fans at Cash Money/No Limit Verzuz Missed the Real History

Cam’ron reflects on the recent Cash Money/No Limit Verzuz and its deep New Orleans roots.

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Cam'ron says the recent Cash Money/No Limit Verzuz at ComplexCon was a major hip-hop moment, but most of the audience didn't fully grasp the cultural and historical significance of what they were witnessing.

During an episode of Talk With Flee, the Harlem rapper praised the show but said that many attendees, especially younger fans, seemed unaware of the deep-rooted New Orleans history behind the matchup.

"I thought it was real good, man," Cam said. "The only problem I had with the Verzuz was the location. Even though it was ComplexCon, it was a great weekend, and it was a lot of people there; a lot of people didn't realize what was actually happening. People didn't even really know the magnitude of what was going on with that Verzuz."

Cam'ron explained that for fans born in the early 1990s or later, the rivalry between No Limit Records and Cash Money Records wasn't something they lived through.

"You may have heard a song or two or three or four," he said. "But you didn't understand exactly that you had Magnolia Projects against Caliope Projects. That's what that was."

The Dipset icon dove deeper into the history, recalling how Birdman and his brother Slim originally approached Master P about making Cash Money a part of No Limit, a deal that never happened due to tensions in the streets of New Orleans.

"Master P turned it down because there was a big street war going on between Caliope and Magnolia," Cam said. "Then Cash Money went and got their own distribution deal and made hundreds of millions of dollars."

Cam'ron added that while ComplexCon was packed, the setting didn't fit the gravity of what the battle represented: "If it couldn't be in New Orleans, because something might've popped off, at least put it in Texas [...] People there would've really understood it."

As for the music, Cam said the highlight came when things got personal between Master P and Birdman on stage. He also reflected on appearances by key artists from both camps who weren't present who could've made the night even more iconic.

"If Lil Wayne came out, oh man," he said. "And if Mystikal and C-Murder weren't in jail, this might've been a three-and-a-half-hour Verzuz [...] Lil Wayne, Mystikal, and C-Murder would've taken it over the top."

Cam has extensive history with both crews, and credits both of them for early co-signs. Among other collaborations, he and Jim Jones once joined Master P on a version of P's signature song "Bout It Bout It," and Cam and Lil Wayne's 2006 duet "Suck It or Not" is to this day a highlight of Cam's live shows.

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