Kim Kardashian Speaks on Taking 'High Road’ Co-Parenting With Kanye West

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West’s divorce and her new relationship with Pete Davidson have become an increasingly public spectacle.

Kim and Ye’s four kids have been thrown into the mix too, with the rapper repeatedly saying she won’t let him see their children amid the divorce. Kardashian has continued saying that isn’t true and that she wants to do what’s best for North, Saint, Chicago, and Psalm.

Ellen DeGeneres broached the subject in a new interview with Kim. “I want to talk about what a good person you are because there’s so much going on in your life, and there’s so much thrown at you,” the host said. “You have a lot of love, but then you have a lot of people that have judgment and everything that’s going on…with Kanye, and you are always protective of him no matter what is happening, no matter what he’s saying. You always protect him because of the kids.”

“I think that’s just who I am and I always saw such a good example in my mom and my dad in their relationship, so I’m always just hopeful and no matter what goes on, it’s the father of my kids,” Kim replied. “I’ll always be protective—I always want my kids to just see the best of the best. So I just try to—as hard as it can be sometimes—I do try to ignore it and just try to do whatever’s best for the kids. … Take the high road.”

“It is taking the high road, and it’s really hard sometimes,” DeGeneres responded.

“But I also think sometimes these are lessons,” Kim explained. “This was put in my life for a reason and these challenges…as hard as it is, I try to sit still sometimes and say, ‘Okay, what is this lesson? What am I meant to learn from it and how can I just get through it and what is this challenge placed here in my life?’

“I know that seems super zen—it’s just really what I do. And I try to think, ‘Okay, I have to get better at this.’ Or one of my things is I...used to care so much about narratives and what’s true and what’s not true on anything, any subject. … I just live my life the way that I think is right and that I feel is right in my soul and just push forward and do the best that I can and that’s the whole message that I just try to take away from anything not going your way in life—is just try to learn, move on, and be a good person.”